Anti-India sentiments of Pakistanis vs Anti-Pakistan sentiments of Indians

Recently, Pakistan expressed her desire to mend relations with India by requesting a meeting between Pakistani FM and Indian FM in the sidelines of the UNGA summit.

India, after confirming the meeting took back the confirmation, citing Pakistan’s “unclean intentions” as the cause. Governments have a facade to maintain, so this was pretty much expected from both sides.

The two major players, Imran Khan and Narender Modi, are currently standing on opposing sides of the nearest elections, and as a result, both cannot afford to take radical policy measures that go against the opinions of the majority of the population.

Could the events that have just transpired (Pakistan interested in peace, India giving a cold shoulder) be a reflection of the sentiments of the general masses in both countries? We decided to take a peek at the comments sections of Dawn and Times Of India for the same news item to find out.

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Before going through these comments, let us make some things abundantly clear: if you are a Pakistani and think Pakistan has never done anything wrong, and India is solely responsible for the deteriorating relations between the two countries, please leave.

Conversely, if you are an Indian and think India has never done anything wrong, and Pakistan is solely responsible for the deteriorating relations between the two countries, please leave.

Dawn

I don’t understand why India doesn’t sit down – there is no other option and it doesn’t do any harm to the indian image internationallly – just sit down and talk

If WE (Pakistan/India) sit & talk, THEY (Russia/America) will loose Billions of dollars on defense contact. Rest you figure out.

Very sad to hear this news. When we listen that both FM are meeting with each other that was happiest day because India and Pakistan can not prosperous without good relation with each other.

I hope peace loving Indians take a notice and vote carefully in the next election. How can Pakistan make peace when the other side clearly do not want it?

All talks are meaningless between both the countries. Let both work for the welfare of the people instead of expecting any good relations with each other.

Times Of India

What”s the use of meeting between India and when Pakistan is always supporting terrorism?as if calling off a meeting was a great thing..declare war n wipe off pak army..,There is a saying”Without war u can”t get peace”..

Pappu 420, and Congress, CPM who openly support Naxalites, maoists, and Kashmir terrorists as well as Pakistan, are more dangerous than Pakistan and all terrorists combined

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What do you expect of Swines who took all the money from US and shoved the barrel of the gun up their back in the form of Osama?,They will do it with China too.Why India will be an exception?India should also shove up the pakis back Lock Stock and Barrel.Ever heard of dialogue with swines

A weak or a small country runs its election campaign on a rhetoric against a powerful or large country. Why our political parties in India run election with a rhetoric against Pakistan, i do not see that happens across the border in Pakistan. They never talk about India during their election. Are we scared of Pakistan? or we do not have any substantial topics to lure voters except hatred. We should talk to Pakistan, people talk to each other only when they have issues. This mentality of Indian minority is not good for India, it is making us low and coward in the eyes of the world. We cry like an old woman does when people annoy her. Think as an Indian not as a Hindu.

Some really thoughtful comments from both sides, and there are signs that people in both countries want peace.

However, it is unfortunate to conclude that people in India harbor so much hate against Pakistan that they would feel no shame in nuking Pakistan off the map if given the chance.

On the other hand, Pakistanis are generally amiable toward their Indian counterparts and would latch onto the first opportunity to improve relations between the two countries.

Case# H2O: How a maverick Pakistani judge is leading the fight against water shortage

It is refreshing to see that Pakistanis are moving away from the usual demagogic slogans such as “Roti, Kapra, Makan” (PPP) and “Father of Atomic Bomb” (PMLN) to rather unappealing (but rational) ones such as “Billion Tree Tsunami“.

Among the individuals who are leading the fight against environmental degradation is an unorthodox but highly effective judge, known widely among his naysayers as “Baba Rehmtay”.

Unfortunately, the Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP), Mian Saqib Nisar, will forever be known for ousting PMLN supremo Nawaz Sharif. Yes, the same guy who diminished Pakistan’s exports to US$20 billion from $24 billion just 5 years ago. The same guy under whom, Pakistan’s external borrowing grew to over US$90 billion, and Pakistan Railways, PIA and other government departments took a nosedive.

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The CJP deserves better than this. The guy has set up Diamer Bhasha and Mohmand Dam fund that is unlikely to benefit him (he is already 64 and reports say Pakistan is likely to run out of clean water by 2025; Pakistan’s life expectancy is 66 years).

He has also taken mineral water companies to task and has vowed to rid Karachi of tanker mafia. Only recently, the Supreme Court invited recommendation on water conservation from experts. Now those outside Pakistan must be wondering: isn’t that the prerogative of the elected government?

Yes, the elected government has the sole right to implement these measures. But when the status quo is bent on upscaling popular rhetorics instead of rational ones, someone else has to rise to solve these issues.

Consider Pakistani gutter journalists such as Umar Cheema and Matiullah Jan. Devoid of etiquette and short on ethics, these guys are on the forefront when enjoying reliefs offered by CJP’s rulings against sales tax on mobile top-ups. Yet they will not let a moment pass by without criticizing even the best of CJP’s decisions.

Pakistani journalism, and unfortunately politics, works by dichotomous division of current affairs by those involved. For example, nowadays the media makes you believe there are only two groups working – the Nawaz Group and the Imran Group. The Nawaz Group includes PML-N and the Imran Group includes the PTI.

Depending on whom you support, the grouping diversifies. If you are a Nawaz supporter, then the Nawaz Group also includes angels and all that is good. The Imran Group then contains PPP, the army, the Supreme Court, establishment, agencies, USA, Israel and even Satan.

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If you are an Imran supporter, then the Imran Group also includes all the good forces in the world and none of the evil ones. The Nawaz Group then contains PPP, India, UK, foreign agencies, bankers, money launderers, looters and, you guessed it, Satan.

This branching unfortunately trivializes the grand mission CJP is on because as always, it revolves around people instead of objectives. A better version of this hierarchy can be: The Water Conservation Group and the Anti Water Conservation Group.

Make no mistake here. If the dams are finally built, the Cheemas and the Matiullah’s will be the first to enjoy the perks of clean water. However, even then, instead of owning up to their past mistakes, they will find out ways to criticize our benefactors to suit their selfish agendas.

A critical analysis of Karachiites living in a multi-ethnic wasteland

Surprisingly, Karachiites made a sane choice this election season by not voting for a party (MQM) that had long sensationalized, but rarely delivered. I use the word sane here as even then, it was not the most logical choice.

A rational choice would have been to not vote at all for a system that grants the privileges of governing 1.5 million people (official but doubtful numbers) to a party (PPP) that won only 3 seats in the elections. The abstinence should have continued until the demands for a separate province were met.

karachi rubbishIt is not their fault either. Karachiites are not the brightest Pakistanis around, but definitely the most resilient ones. Inhabited largely by one of the most educated races in Pakistan, Karachi has a long history of making uneducated choices.

The Muhajirs, or Urdu-Speaking, are a nice bunch of people, extremely well-mannered and hard-working. But it is common knowledge that the Almighty never endows perfection on any of his creations, and so Muhajirs also have their weaknesses, the most prominent of which is a low emotional quotient.

As long as their basic necessities are met, their short term goals are achieved and you talk sweet to them and show them dreams of a better future, they will buy anything you are selling. Add a pinch of racism and a spoonful of victim mentality and you have the perfect cauldron for a Muhajir.

They live in extremely poor conditions, but are even willing to serve their oppressors as long as the above potion is fed to them. This was the exact recipe that MQM used for 3 decades, and is the current modus operandi for the PTI.

karachi mqmPerhaps the Muhajirs’ love for sensationalism and a spontaneous revolution arises from the very fact that they are highly educated, literary people. They have the poetry of Ghalib and Mir Taqi Mir on the tips of their palms. Poetry tends to create a false sense of satisfaction in tempestuous times, and this is perhaps responsible for the delusional bubble that the Muhajirs in Karachi seem to be living in.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not stereotyping anyone here. Majority of the people in all these ethnicities are peaceful and hard-working, but the few evil ones have transformed Karachi into a wasteland. Unfortunately, the sum of all that is Solution: the majority will have to rise and defeat their nefarious designs.

Then come the Pathans, a warrior race that have been genetically designed to annihilate anything that stands in their path. A Pathan child has the capacity to topple a full grown man with his finger, and this super human strength makes them fully suited to jobs that require power and endurance. You will find Pathans driving the local economy as security guards, drivers, cargo shifters, laborers and masons throughout Karachi.

Pathans are politically much more mature than the Muhajirs, as evidenced by PTI being the only party to have won elections consecutively in KPK. However, Pathans in Karachi seem to be suffering from a hypocritical frenzy.

You will not find a Pathan who doesn’t pray five times a day. Many have prayer beads in their hands, and most recite durood when they are not doing anything. Yet even the mildly evil ones among them feel no shame in petty theft or encroaching other people’s rights.

karachi electricity theftPark your car in a Pathan dominated locality in Karachi and you will return to find your rear-view mirrors and battery missing. While you are foraging through your wallet to find out if you have enough money for a new battery, two Pathans on a bike will come and rob you off your mobile and cash. In despair, you look towards the sky only to find kundas on pylons supplying electricity to houses owned by bearded, staunch Muslims.

Punjabis are usually an intelligent creed. However, Punjabis in Karachi will vote for anyone who keeps Lahore happy. Ask a Punjabi: How often does load-shedding occur in your area? He answers: 12 hours, but in Lahore it is for 0 hours so I will vote for Nawaz Sharif again. Ask him: Have you ever been robbed of your cell phone on the streets? He answers: Yes, but there is a dolphin squad in Lahore so I will vote of NS again.

Sindhis were a minority in Karachi a few decades back, but have since become the third largest ethnicity. Despite being only handful in numbers, they occupy important positions, thanks to their nepotistic tendencies. I remember a Sindhi cook we had once upon a time who was also a school teacher and a polio worker, but had never gone to work at either job and still received his monthly income.

karachi politicsThe Muhajirs of Karachi voted for a Muhajir Party: Result – Karachi died. The Muslims of Karachi voted for a Islamic Party: Result – Karachi died. The youth and oppressed of Karachi have now voted for a party that promises accountability: Result – Karachi is dying.

Next time, forget which ethnicity you belong to, try to be a Karachiite and vote for Karachi or don’t vote at all.

Mahmood-o-Ayaz Project

Project Rationale

Pakistan is a developing country that is on the verge of a financial crisis. Traditional education systems that work well in developed countries take too much time to add individuals to the national workforce.

While the affluent may have the resources and the luxury to send their kids through 17-18 years of education, for those who live below the poverty line this means 17 years lost that would otherwise have been utilized in earning bread for the family.

Project Objectives

  • To minimize the delays in converting Pakistan’s dependent population to an independent one that can contribute towards increasing the country’s GDP.

  • To bridge the gaps between the privileged and the underprivileged sections of the society.

  • To increase remittances by developing exportable skilled labor.

  • To alleviate poverty in the process.

Project Outline

  • Revising the syllabus to ensure a maximum of 10 years from grade 1 to graduation.

  • Stripping out subjects that do not contribute to the economy, or prove as a hurdle to efficient learning. Examples: Pakistan Studies, Urdu, Islamiat, Biology (for engineering/business), Physics / Chemistry (for medical).

  • Group I (grade 1-5): Only three subjects – English, Mathematics and Computers. By grade 5, students should achieve proficiency in English and Math that is equivalent to those who are about to appear in the Cambridge O-level Exam. The students should also be proficient in typing, and basic computer skills such as MS Office, Internet.

  • Group II (grade 6-10): Only professional education pertinent to the field chosen by the student. For example, if a student, his family and teachers (after mutual agreement and years of observation/interviews) have decided for him to become a doctor, only university level medical education should be imparted to him. Principles of physics and chemistry that are relevant in physiology and biochemistry should be explained in as much detail as is required to understand the concepts. No need to teach a future doctor about PNP and NPN transistors.

Target Populations

  • Population A: Extremely poor families that cannot send their children to school, and resort to child labor to feed themselves.

  • Population B: Rich families that can pay in excess of PKR100K per month.

Population Composition

  • Population A: 50% – never attended school, 5-15 year old, parents below poverty line.

  • Population B: 50%.

Benefits for Participants

  • General Benefits: 10 years maximum from grade 1 to graduation, stripping out excess subjects. Ability to produce competent doctors, engineers and businessmen at a tender age of 14-15 years.

  • Population A: Stipend of PKR 20k per child.

  • Population B: Most rich parents dream about their children finding good jobs in countries such as USA, UK, Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc. Early graduation and professional education curriculum centered around finding jobs in developed countries (e.g. preparation for foreign licensing exams such as USMLE) provides a quick and efficient road to fulfill that dream.

Plan of Action

  • Phase I (Experimental): 10 years. 1 District. Only recruit students from Population A. Develop a curriculum that is palatable as well as efficient. Devise a methodology to effectively divide students from Group A into suitable fields in Group B upon graduation (based on the students’ ability and teacher’s assessment).

  • Phase II (Staging): 10 years. Multiple Districts. Population A:Population B = 2:1. Improve the system to accommodate students with weak performance. Induct rich students and work on the psychological and sociological aspects of the amalgamation.

  • Phase III (Production): Ongoing. Entire country. Population A:Population B = 1:1. Work on making the project sustainable and increase the stipends to Population A parents.

Feasibility

1000 students per campus. Monthly Housing / Hostels (Population A) – PKR 5M. Monthly cumulative stipend (Population A) – PKR 1M to 5M. Monthly income from fees (Population B) – PKR 50M.